Timeline for Is 30 Mbit/s fibre for WAN faster than 30 Mbit/s copper? [duplicate]
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| Jul 1, 2022 at 14:39 | history | edited | Zac67♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 3, 2021 at 1:10 | comment | added | Ron Maupin♦ | Did any answer help you? If so, you should accept the answer so that the question doesn't keep popping up forever, looking for an answer. Alternatively, you can post and accept your own answer. | |
| Jun 27, 2018 at 0:42 | history | closed | Ron Maupin♦ | Duplicate of Speed benefits when switching LAN from 1Gb copper to Fiber Optic | |
| Feb 24, 2018 at 13:18 | comment | added | Stevetech | @mcfedr the speed from copper is likely to by “up to” and variable based on contention. The speed of fibre is more likely to be consistent | |
| Feb 24, 2018 at 13:02 | comment | added | mcfedr | @Stevetech You might be right, contention is likely better, but then the question is about the provider lying about the speed, not what cable you are using - 30mb/s is 30mb/s no matter what you send it over. | |
| Feb 24, 2018 at 9:39 | comment | added | smci | You still didn't define "fast"; latency can matter as well as bandwidth, depends on your application. If it's for streaming, then latency is not too important; if it's for web use, then it can, if it's for VoIP telephony or gaming, it definitely does. (And this is ignoring congestion.) | |
| Feb 23, 2018 at 17:26 | comment | added | veel84 | wow, 30mbits is 30mbits. One may expeirence more latency and so on during busy times but neither will be a faster speed than the other. | |
| Feb 23, 2018 at 16:32 | comment | added | user36472 | So did any answer help you? You should accept an answer if it did. :-) | |
| Feb 23, 2018 at 16:00 | answer | added | Joel Coehoorn | timeline score: 8 | |
| Feb 23, 2018 at 14:38 | comment | added | James Snell | Which copper technology are we talking about? | |
| Feb 23, 2018 at 7:37 | comment | added | Alnitak | Define "copper". Do you mean xDSL, or DOCSIS? | |
| Feb 23, 2018 at 2:49 | comment | added | David Schwartz | @RonMaupin Maybe we're reading this question differently. I read the question as about a town network whose primary purpose is most likely to provide connectivity to residential customers. The reference to "20 Mbit/s copper for about €30 per month", for example. | |
| Feb 23, 2018 at 2:03 | comment | added | Ron Maupin♦ | @DavidSchwartz residential network services provided by ISPs are quite different than those provided to businesses. Residential services are often asymmetric, and subject to contention with other customers, but business services have guarantees. All the circuits we order are direct from the business site to the ISP router. In any case, there is no added latency for copper itself. Given apples-to-apples ethernet on each, they are the same. | |
| Feb 23, 2018 at 2:00 | comment | added | David Schwartz | @RonMaupin See here. "Home" means the point at which the service provider's network ends and the customer's begins, whether that's a residence, apartment building, or business. But even if I was talking about a literal home, it still wouldn't be home networking since home networking takes place after you get to the home -- the fiber that goes to a home is part of a commercial ISP network. | |
| Feb 23, 2018 at 1:25 | comment | added | Ron Maupin♦ | @DavidSchwartz, this isn't about fiber to the home because home networking is explicitly off-topic here. The question is about business networks. | |
| Feb 23, 2018 at 1:00 | answer | added | David Schwartz | timeline score: 3 | |
| Feb 23, 2018 at 0:56 | comment | added | David Schwartz | Can you clarify what fiber the town was actually installing? Are they talking about wiring fiber to each home? Or is this a fiber backbone from which they'll offer services over copper (and/or fiber)? A fiber backbone can give you a much better chance of actually getting 30Mbps out of your 30Mbps service, whether the last mile is copper or fiber. | |
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| Feb 22, 2018 at 18:45 | history | edited | Ron Maupin♦ |
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| Feb 22, 2018 at 18:19 | answer | added | Flexo - Save the data dump | timeline score: 3 | |
| Feb 22, 2018 at 15:24 | comment | added | Bilkokuya | Can you clarify if you actually record speeds near 30Mb/s on your current copper line? Paying for 30Mb/s bandwidth and actually utilising it are two different things. | |
| Feb 22, 2018 at 13:54 | comment | added | jrtapsell | The problem is what is the definition of faster? | |
| Feb 22, 2018 at 8:38 | comment | added | mcalex | Obligatory youtube: youtu.be/yuOzZ7dnPNU | |
| Feb 22, 2018 at 8:06 | answer | added | StessenJ | timeline score: 12 | |
| Feb 22, 2018 at 7:06 | answer | added | jl6 | timeline score: 28 | |
| Feb 22, 2018 at 3:59 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackNetworkEng/status/966522787933253632 | ||
| Feb 22, 2018 at 3:25 | comment | added | Criggie | I remember moving from ~40 Mbit VDSL to 30/10 Mbit Fibre (UFB) The latency to my ISP's DNS server dropped from 17 ms down to 2.2 ms. However I'm still 195 ms away from the US because of geography, and while saving 8% of that latency helps its not quite as good as dropping latency to 1/8 of what it was. | |
| Feb 22, 2018 at 1:14 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @Stevetech: "pretty much everywhere" Heh, good one! | |
| Feb 22, 2018 at 0:58 | answer | added | Jim | timeline score: 18 | |
| Feb 21, 2018 at 23:46 | comment | added | chrylis -cautiouslyoptimistic- | Something that seems to be overlooked here is that long-distance fiber tends to have a lot higher capacity, even if it's only provisioned at 30Mbit. | |
| S Feb 21, 2018 at 22:23 | history | suggested | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 21, 2018 at 22:16 | comment | added | Stevetech | I just have one word for the naysayers. Contention. Because of the potential greater bandwidth of the backbone feeding the street you are more likely to get the full 30mbps even at busy times. In the UK fibre to the cabinet is being rolled out pretty much everywhere and fir the lucky fibre to the premises is on the way. | |
| Feb 21, 2018 at 21:35 | comment | added | MAQ | I recommend this article discussing the matters Ron Trunk mentioned: meanderful.blogspot.nl/2017/05/… | |
| Feb 21, 2018 at 19:59 | comment | added | Ron Maupin♦ | I would assume that since you have three network engineers form various parts of the world, all telling you the same thing (in different ways), that you understand you should just nod and smile when he opens his mouth, but double-check anything he says before you believe it. | |
| Feb 21, 2018 at 19:18 | answer | added | Ron Trunk | timeline score: 19 | |
| Feb 21, 2018 at 19:02 | answer | added | Zac67♦ | timeline score: 72 | |
| Feb 21, 2018 at 18:56 | comment | added | Ron Trunk | I would ignore anything that man says from now on :\ | |
| Feb 21, 2018 at 18:56 | answer | added | Ron Maupin♦ | timeline score: 4 | |
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| Feb 21, 2018 at 18:48 | history | asked | wcndave | CC BY-SA 3.0 |