I'm loocking for a specifications of Gigabit Ethernet connexion with POE. As I saw somewhere 1000BASE-T(X) is using the 8 lines of thisted pair ? So this is my Question, how It could work with POE?

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The wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet) explains it quite nicely:

Standards-based power over Ethernet is implemented following the specifications in IEEE 802.3af-2003 (which was later incorporated as clause 33 into IEEE 802.3-2005) or the 2009 update, IEEE 802.3at. A phantom power technique is used to allow the powered pairs to also carry data. This permits its use not only with 10BASE-T and 100BASE-TX, which use only two of the four pairs in the cable, but also with 1000BASE-T (gigabit Ethernet), which uses all four pairs for data transmission. This is possible because all versions of Ethernet over twisted pair cable specify differential data transmission over each pair with transformer coupling; the DC supply and load connections can be made to the transformer center-taps at each end. Each pair thus operates in common mode as one side of the DC supply, so two pairs are required to complete the circuit. The polarity of the DC supply may be inverted by crossover cables; the powered device must operate with either pair: spare pairs 4–5 and 7–8 or data pairs 1–2 and 3–6. Polarity is required on data pairs, and ambiguously implemented for spare pairs, with the use of a diode bridge.

  • You lost me with "transformer coupling". ;-) – generalnetworkerror Jun 25 '13 at 23:43
  • Try and find simple answers to copy paste in. This answer does not explain it nicely. – Ron Royston Jun 16 '15 at 21:06
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    TL;DR Power is DC and data is AC. (DC power will not cross a transformer, but the AC signal will) – Ricky Beam Nov 3 '15 at 3:35

The Wikipedia answer Teun posted is correct but is pretty dense and hard to follow for someone who is not up on EE terminology. Here is my attempt at a less jargon heavy version.

Signals are transmitted as a voltage difference between the two wires in a pair while power is transmitted as a voltage difference between two pairs. Ethernet is transformer coupled so the transmit and receive electronics only see (in principle, nothing is perfect) the voltage between the two wires of a pair. The power connections are taken from a center tap on the transformers so they only see the voltage between the two pairs.

The large difference in frequency also helps keep the signal and power from interfering with each other but it's not the primary separation mechanism (unlike with POTS).

  • The transfomer coupling requires a minimum frequency as DC isn't coupled. – Zac67 Nov 29 '17 at 18:25

"The answer is through the use of phantom power—power sent over the same wire pairs used for data. When the same pair is used for both power and data, the power and data transmissions don’t interfere with each other. Because electricity and data function at opposite ends of the frequency spectrum, they can travel over the same cable. Electricity has a low frequency of 60 Hz or less, and data transmissions have frequencies that can range from 10 million to 100 million Hz"

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Some POE adapters will not work with gigabit. If your POE is gigabit compatable it will say on the adapter.

  • Your answer was flagged as low quality. You should expand your answer to explain better, and include any supporting documentation. – Ron Maupin Nov 29 '17 at 16:45

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