# How to calculate random subnet first/last address [duplicate]

Lets say I have to create 256 subnets (it could be any number), how would I find the first and last (network/broadcast addresses) for a randomly chosen subnet? For instance, subnet 139.

I'm not really concerned about usable addresses, just trying to understand a concept.

So, is there a formula or method to finding a randomly picked subnet's network/broadcast address?

## marked as duplicate by Mike Pennington, Teun Vink♦Feb 7 '17 at 6:22

Take the subnet number, subtract one (the first one is `0`), and put that in the subnet part of the address. In your example, `145.0.0.0/8` will have 256 `/16` subnets. The 139th subnet will be `145.138.0.0/16`. You only need the subnet and the mask to figure out anything else.
• You need to calculate the subnet mask. To get 512 subnets from a `/8` network the subnets need to be `/17`. That gets you off the octet boundaries, and you need to do this in binary. Get `404` in binary (`110010100`) and place it into the subnet part of the address. You get `14.202.0.0/17`. Forget octets, they are only to make an address easier for humans to read, and they really play no part in addressing. IPv4 addresses are simply 32-bit binary numbers. – Ron Maupin Feb 5 '17 at 19:39