5

We are thinking about redesigning our network. The topology is a star and is comprised of several similar POPs. The entire network is based on Cisco devices. The core router is a Cisco 7600 and two 4900 distribution switches. On each POP, we have an access switch, which is a ME3400 (L3 capable) and CMTS 7200 with a NPE-G2 Processor Card.

Network Topology

The 7200s are connected by trunks to the core router (don't like it) and Load-balance is done in L3 by OSPF (one area). I can't implement multiple area OSPF because the CPE public subnets are too difficult to summarize and the public range is split over several POPs without hierarchy, so this would be inefficient. The actual design was done several years ago when EtherChannel was uncommon.

So far, I've been thinking:

  • Implementation of EtherChannel between the access switches and CMTS.
  • Implementation of a L3 boundary between core network and POP.

I've not found a solution for the redundancy on the core beside L3 OSPF. Suggestion are welcome.

I've also been thinking about changing the public interconnection IP to private ones, due to security concern.


Edit 1 - Additional Info

  • There are 8 PoPs and we don't plan to expand any further than 15.
  • We have split a public subnet range of /19 over the PoPs without caring about summarization or hierarchy. Our criteria to split and provide subnet is the number of end-CPE. For example, if a PoP is estimated with 1500 CPE connected we allocate 2048 public address. Due to the growth, we didn't make contiguous distribution so we have several small ranges over the PoP. Some PoPs have a 700 CPE and we provide 4 range non-contiguous subnets. Smooth migration is a hot-topic because we are on production so the change of one PoP shouldn't affect the other.
  • No firewall filtering is planned on the feed - we reach 3Gb of traffic but some ACL to restrict access to our internal infrastructure is on analysis.
  • We are connected through BGP to our ISP and we have a fail-over link with a partner. Here the change/modification are only intend to our core network, I'm not focused to perform any change on this part.

Edit 2 - IOS on device

  • Core Router : Cisco CISCO7604 - c7600rsp72043_rp Software (c7600rsp72043_rp-IPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.2(33)SRE3
  • Distribuition Switch : cisco WS-C4900M - Catalyst 4500 L3 Switch Software (cat4500e-IPBASEK9-M), Version 15.0(2)SG2
  • Access Switch : cisco ME-3400G-12CS-A - ME340x Software (ME340x-METROIPACCESSK9-M), Version 12.2(60)EZ3
  • CMTS 7200 NPE-G2 : cisco uBR7225VXR - 7200 Software (UBR7200P-JK9SU2-M), Version 12.2(33)SCG5 (soon to be upgraded to SCG6)

Edit 3 - Improve Topology Picture

I change the picture to improve the understanding of our network. We have a joint venture with a company where we provide each other Core Redundancy as showed in the image. In normal operation, we have only 1 ISP but if our core router go down we have the redundant feed through our partner. I add on picture the type of subnet and distribution, we can find on CPE side.

Thanks for your suggestions and advice.

15
  • Are there only 8 pops? How many routes are we talking about? What routing do you do with CPEs? Do you (or plan to) do any Internet filtering (FW, content, etc)? What is your ISP connection?
    – Ron Trunk
    Commented Apr 5, 2014 at 21:14
  • I add the info. Let me know what do you think. Actually my main doubt is how to reach Load-balance in the core without OSPF and being a better/more efficient solution. I already think RSTP, GLBP and so on, but any solution at my understanding, were actually much better than actual scenario.
    – cgasp
    Commented Apr 6, 2014 at 8:04
  • Are the L2 distribution switches 4500x models? You've mentioned that model in other questions; what IOS are you running on each type of device? Commented Apr 6, 2014 at 14:13
  • 1
    More questions: Do CPE subnets span more than one pop? Unless I'm missing something here. Moving to OSPF seems pretty straightforward
    – Ron Trunk
    Commented Apr 6, 2014 at 16:31
  • @MikePennington : 4500x is for ftth project, here is for legacy cable network. About IOS, I will add the info.
    – cgasp
    Commented Apr 7, 2014 at 3:51

1 Answer 1

3

You have an elegant physical setup, but logically, it’s deficient in a lot of ways. You’re relying on layer 2 for all of your connections, which doesn’t provide any real failover your setup should provide. Luckily, you aren’t wasting any bandwidth with STP because you don’t have any redundant links; VLAN 100 and VLAN 200 only have a single way out, if I’m reading this correctly.

I can't implement multiple area OSPF because the CPE public subnets are too difficult to summarize and the public range is split over several POPs without hierarchy, so this would be inefficient.

I don’t even think you need to go as far as setting up multiple areas, the segment your concerned with is fairly small. Cisco recommends you stay under 50 routers per area, though, most will agree that you can exceed that amount by quite a significant margin and still be considered healthy. I have about 80 routers per area with no issues; Ron has even more than that without any hiccups.

  • Implementation of EtherChannel between the access switches and CMTS.

This all hinges off what happens higher up in your network. If you’re significantly oversubscribing your distribution to core links, then you may not see any real benefit in increasing your bandwidth at the access layer. The same holds true if you’re doing this with your access to distribution.

Again, as most have mentioned in the comments, implementing OSPF would be pretty easy. If you were utilizing a layer 3 protocol, you would share that load across equal/unequal cost links, too. Perhaps a redundant link between your distribution switches would allow each access switch a redundant path out. As it stands, if one of your access links goes down, you lose an entire subnet (VLAN 100 or VLAN 200).

2
  • 1
    Just one data point: the network I'm currently working on has over 180 routers and > 2200 routes in a single area. Works just fine, thank you very much ;-).
    – Ron Trunk
    Commented Apr 8, 2014 at 19:31
  • 2
    Keep in mind that the 50 router per area recommendation comes from the days when routers had 25mhz processors. Also when you use multi-areas, traffic MUST cross area 0, so in effect you converted your fancy OSPF to RIP. Commented Apr 15, 2014 at 15:12

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service and acknowledge you have read our privacy policy.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.